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  • 1
    Apr
    2010
    1:55pm, EDT

    Early trash talk for Duke-UNC

    Editor's note: March Madness is too much for any one person to handle, so I'm adding help. The guys behind Ballin' Is a Habit, Rob Dauster and Troy Machir, will be contributing throughout March and into the Final Four, both with content from their Web site and original articles for us. This post originally appeared at BIAH.

    By Rob Dauster

    The great thing about social media and the internet is that we can get a chance to see who some of the players we root so hard for really are.

    The guys at DraftExpress were in Columbus for the McDonald's All-American festivities, and they caught up with Reggie Bullock, Kendall Marshall, Harrison Barnes, and Kyrie Irving. Irving is headed to Duke, while the other three are all going to UNC.

    DX was able to get them on camera in a trash-talking session. Twice.

    Check it out:

    You can find more of Rob's writing at Ballin' is a Habit and follow him on Twitter @ballinishabit.

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  • 11
    Feb
    2010
    2:40pm, EST

    Yeah, about Duke-UNC ...

    OK, forget classic. In fact, just forget this Duke-North Carolina ever happened.

    The Blue Devils (20-4) may have walked away with a 64-54 and ended a three-game skid to UNC, but it'll go down as 2½ hours where neither team could hit a shot and viewers wondered if it was some kind of bizarro UNC-Duke game.

    Hey, even the coachspeak afterward wasn't pretty.

    "I thought it was a gritty performance," said Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski. "The ball was not going in and they blocked a lot of shots. ... For us to keep up our defense and rebounding when the ball wasn't going in the basket was a big thing."

    Coach K better hope those shots fall on Saturday when Maryland comes to town. As the best ACC game of the week, perhaps we'll be treated to a throwback showdown from the early 2000s when the Devils and Terps were both making Final Fours. We can only hope.

    As for hope, the Tar Heels probably don't have any when it comes to defending their title. At 13-11 overall and 2-7 in ACC play, UNC's more than a longshot to reach the Big Dance. It has no shot. Sure, it could win the ACC tournament, but who's gonna believe that?

    At least there's this: It can't get any worse for the Tar Heels, right?

    Mike Miller's also on Twitter, usually talkin' hoops. Click here to see more.

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  • 10
    Feb
    2010
    8:05pm, EST

    Brush up before Duke-UNC

    Looking for last-minute reading on the Duke-North Carolina matchup? You're in luck.

    But better hurry. Tip off is only hours away.

    The Blue Devils owned this rivalry for the first half of the decade, winning 15 of 17 games between 1999 and 2005. Then, Mike Krzyzewski snagged commitments from two of the nation's top recruits, Josh McRoberts and Greg Paulus.

    And then everything went downhill.

    That's partly because Roy Williams snagged Tyler Hansbrough, another big man who didn't have quite as much "upside." As Ken Tysiac from the Raleigh News & Observer writes, that was the turning point in the Duke-Carolina dynamic. The Heels have ruled ever since.

    Well, except for this season. The N.Y. Times details some of the problems affecting the 13-10 Heels, and touches on why Duke, despite being 19-4, is merely good and not great.

    And it's not like the Tar Heels are bereft of talent. Williams' roster is loaded with McDonald's All-Americans, but that's hardly going to save UNC when it comes to defending its NCAA tournament title, writes Ken Davis.

    Still, even if the game lacks luster, the stakes are plenty high. Duke can't afford another high-profile loss, and UNC needs a win like Vancouver needs snow.

    Then again, maybe you just want some humor. In that case, click here. You're welcome.

    Mike Miller's also on Twitter, usually talkin' hoops.

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  • 10
    Feb
    2010
    2:07am, EST

    Why Duke-UNC could be classic

    The roar that usually surrounds the first Duke-North Carolina game of the year is more like a murmur this season. No round-the-clock TV promos. The online hype and national attention is subdued.

    Given the Tar Heels' slide, this isn't a surprise. But it still feels strange.

    The four games between the Tobacco Road rivals were Top 10 showdowns. From 2004-2007, all eight games were Top 25 matchups. Twelve straight ranked games? That's absurd.

    Ellen Ozier / Reuters file
    Mike Krzyzewski will be miffed if his Devils stumble against UNC.


    Then again, that's what we've come to expect from these two teams – consistent, continued excellence that sets the tone for the rest of the country.

    And now? UNC (13-10 overall, 2-6 in the ACC) isn't even on the bubble, let alone in the NCAA tournament. It's not even the biggest ACC game of the week for Duke (19-4, 7-2), which plays host to Maryland on Saturday.

    But … it's still Duke vs. North Carolina. Anyone who writes off Wednesday's game would be foolish. Coaches know it, fans know it, and players know it.

    "My reaction is, 'What's going on?' " Duke guard Nolan Smith told The Raleigh News & Observer. "They have guys that are probably going to be lottery picks. It's very surprising to me. But they're a very talented team."

    That's usually been true. It's also why the two teams have produced so many memorable games through the years – even when one was backsliding.

    The most recent was March 9, 2003, when the Heels (15-14) pulled off an 82-79 upset of No. 9 Duke thanks to some hot shooting (56 percent from the field) and a fired-up roster. Then-UNC coach Matt Doherty got into a shoving match with Duke's Andre Buckner before officials separated everyone.

    "We've been taking punches to the face all year and we've come off the mat each time," said Doherty, who was out less than a month later."We came off the mat today and played a great game against a great opponent. What a gutsy effort. To me it was one of those classic Carolina-Duke games."

    Or take the Feb. 3, 2000 game. For the first time in 10 years, UNC wasn't ranked for the showdown, yet took the No. 3 Devils to overtime, before losing 90-86.

    This was the season Duke entered the NCAA tournament ranked No. 1 in the AP poll, yet was bounced in the Sweet 16. The Heels spent most of the season underperforming with a talented roster (future first-round picks Joe Forte and Brendan Haywood among them), only to put it together in the Big Dance. As an eight seed, the Heels reached the Final Four.

    My favorite example – and probably the most used – is the double overtime classic from 1995.

    Mike Krzyzewski was on a leave of absence. Duke was headed for its worst record in a decade, while North Carolina was No. 2 in the polls and would finish the year in the Final Four.

    When Jerry Stackhouse, Rasheed Wallace and the rest of the Heels opened on a 26-9 run, it should've gotten ugly. It didn't. Somehow the Devils rallied, forced overtime and got a miracle shot from Jeff Capel to force another extra period. UNC eventually claimed a 102-100 victory, but the game already earned its place in rivalry lore (and became an ESPN constant when it came time to hype the game).

    This year's game requires a few things to be that entertaining, most of them UNC-related (Duke being better and all).

    Larry Drew II must bring it
    It's not that Drew is bad – a 2-1 assist-turnover ratio is decent – it's just that he's not Ty Lawson, or any other top-flight point guard, which is what Roy Williams' up-tempo offense requires. If Drew plays 30 minutes and gets to a 3-1 assist-to-turnover ratio, the Heels should be in it.

    Where's Ginyard of old?
    UNC senior Marcus Ginyard was supposed to be the team's leader, defensive stopper and sometime scorer. Instead, he's dealt with nagging injuries and an always-streaky jumper. So forget the offense. If Ginyard can take one of Duke's main offensive threats (Jon Scheyer, Kyle Singler or Nolan Smith), it forces one of the Devils' lackluster big men to step up.

    Make those big guys miserable
    Duke's frontcourt isn't highly skilled, or effective against aggressive defenses (see: Georgetown blowout). What it does is support Scheyer, Smith and Singler. If Carolina's faster, more athletic forwards get back to its disruptive, harassing style of defense, it'll turn Duke into a perimeter-oriented team. (The Devils can shoot the 3, but you're better off keeping Smith from driving the lane and kicking, and off the free-throw line in general.)

    Duke should win this game. But should doesn't always apply in this rivalry.

    Mike Miller's also on Twitter, usually talkin' hoops.

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  • 26
    Oct
    2009
    3:05pm, EDT

    ACC is Duke vs. UNC -- everyone else stinks?

    So Duke and North Carolina are picked to finish atop the ACC. This is new?

    Seems like the Tar Heels and Blue Devils are always picked to rule the roost, and usually do. Since 1954, one of those two has either won or tied for the ACC title 44 times.

    But this is the first time in the 41 years of the conference's preseason day that they're officially co-favorites.

    Kevin C. Cox/Getty images
    It's Coach K vs. Roy Williams, again.


    (Duke garnered more first-place votes, but UNC tied them with 545 overall points. And via ACC Now, this is the 19th time North Carolina has been picked to finish first. The Tar Heels won the league in 11 of the first 18 times they were picked. Duke has been picked to finish first 12 times before, winning in seven of those years.)

    Huh. So this means the ACC media guys can't settle on which team's gonna be better, either.

    The offseason debate of Duke vs. North Carolina – the Devils return more players, but only two of 'em are guards, while the national champion Heels lost four starters – was a minor point among hopheads, mostly because both teams were still going to be really good. (Seriously. Both are in our Top 10.)

    But this could be an issue for the rest of the ACC. In the media's eyes, everyone else is a loooong way back.

    From ACC now:

    The 144-point gap between Duke and North Carolina and third selection Clemson is the largest gap between any spots in the poll. Clemson-Georgia Tech (third-fourth, 122 points) and Boston College-Miami (eighth-ninth, 116 points) are the other demarcation points.

    OK, the Tigers have a chance, but everyone else is way, way back of the top two. Georgia Tech is slightly better than Maryland, Wake Forest, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Boston College. Miami, Virginia and N.C. State are bottom dwellers.

    And this is exactly how it's gonna play out, right? Right.

    (Shakes head, noting heavy sarcasm to avoid angry comments below.)

    Follow me on Twitter and get more college basketball news at NBCSports.com.

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  • 7
    Oct
    2009
    12:32am, EDT

    Duke-UNC rivalry must apply to everything

    It is funny to see the Duke-North Carolina rivalry spill over into other areas. Take recruiting.

    Harrison Barnes, the No. 1 recruit in the class of 2010, had a home visit Monday night from Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski, which was supposed to be the final in-home visit of the contact period allowed by the NCAA.

    Except UNC coach Roy Williams showed up a couple hours later.

    Kevin C. Cox/Getty
    Mike Krzyzewski and Roy Williams fight for wins, titles, recruits...


    Vance Downs, Barnes' coach at Ames (Iowa) High, wasn't there, but told the Raleigh News & Observer "that they were both there … and it was a busy night," Downs said.

    This wasn't a case of Williams waiting around until Coach K left. He had to schedule a visit and have the family approve it. It's the timing that's key.

    Naturally, fans from both sides are trying to figure out which move gives them the better chance at Barnes. From Jim Young at ACCSports.com:

    If you're an optimistic Duke fan you see this as evidence that Roy Williams is throwing a last-second Hail Mary pass. UNC pulled out all the stops during Barnes' official visit to Chapel Hill but couldn't secure a commitment. Barnes is still scheduled to make an official visit to Duke and Williams won't be able to crash that party. So squeezing a few more hours of face time with Barnes is evidence that Williams doesn't think his recruiting pitch has had its desired effect yet.

    If you're an optimistic UNC fan you see this as further proof that Roy Williams is the best closer in the recruiting business. By surprising the recruiting world and landing the last in-home visit time with Barnes, Williams has shown everyone that Barnes to Duke is not the "lock" that so many thought a few months before. Considering that Barnes had to have approved such a last-minute visit, it's clear that he's still very receptive to the UNC recruiting pitch. In fact, Oettinger's source says that the UNC coaches feel they are in very good standing with Barnes' mother, Shirley.

    Ah, the hand wringing that must be going on in the Chapel Hill-Durham area right now.

    You know what be even funnier than all of this? If Barnes picks Kansas, the other school he reportedly has a "high interest" in. He's supposed to make a decision before Nov. 16.

    (H/T: The Dagger, Tar Heel Fan)

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  • 2
    Oct
    2009
    4:59pm, EDT

    And now, the best part of sports: The rant

    Fridays don't always need to be relaxing. Sure, the weekend's just hours away, but why not get fired up for that weekend?

    Why not indulge in a rant? OK, it's not mine. But it's damn fine rant.

    A co-worker (and North Carolina grad) sent me this link to Tar Heel Fan yesterday (with a mini-rant of his own, mostly centering on graduation rates). And it's a great example of how the blogosphere can take apart the MSM with a little insight and a lot of passion.

    Did I mention it's about how Duke and Coach K are treated compared to the rest of the hoops world? Take it away, THF.

    New Media Meme: Duke is Back! Duke is Back!

    Despite the fact their situation has only slightly improved and the meme hinges on not yet realized commitments from two high school players..

    Jeff Goodman earlier this week and now Gary Parrish have written online projecting a return to Final Fours and national title contention if the Blue Devils land Harrison Barnes and Kylie Irving. Needless to say both declarations strike me as somewhat premature. (Click the links to read the full articles.)

    Holy cart before the horse Batman! Right now no one knows what Barnes is going to do.  Based on what I have read is Barnes is not a sure thing for Duke and calling them a leader for his services might be a tad strong.  Duke has had the longest relationship with Barnes and that does factor in heavily where recruiting is concerned.  However, Roy has made a strong play for the #1 player in 2010 and the speculation is UNC is as much a player for Barnes as Duke is at this point.

    However, the next five grafs take a life of their own. THF touches on why Krzyzewski's recruiting methods have fallen (and the quality of players, as a result), why UNC has owned the rivalry recently and a racial tinge to the writer's whole argument.

    It's good stuff, and raises fair points about the articles in question. But mostly, it's a rant – backed up by facts and sound reasoning – and a good one. And if you ask me, those are the best parts of sports.

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  • 12
    Feb
    2009
    4:03am, EST

    Run with the Tar Heels at your own risk

    If it wasn't clear before, it is now. Run with North Carolina at your own risk. Just ask Duke.

    We'd already seen the Heels' awesome offense at work in wins against Michigan State and Notre Dame earlier this season. A week ago, they dropped 108 on Maryland. And even when UNC loses, it still racks up the points.

    But this 101-87 road win against Duke – an exceedingly efficient defensive team – was about as good as it gets.

    Consider UNC's performance:

    • On 81 possessions, the Heels averaged 1.236 points per possession against the best defense it's faced this year. That's higher than their season average of 1.219.
    • The Devils hadn't given up more than 81 points all season. The Heels blew by that with more than six minutes remaining.
    • Carolina's FG% was 59.7. Duke usually holds opponents to 44.1.

    Gerry Broome/AP
    Ty Lawson


    UNC did most of its damage during the second half, when it outscored Duke 57-35. This was after the Devils put on a shot of their own, ripping off 52 first-half points. At one point, they hit 13-of-18 shots. But early in the second half, the Heels started running – scoring in 10- and 12-point bunches over 3 minute spans – and Duke couldn't keep up.

    "In the second half, we kind of had the mindset that we were going to outscore them," Duke's Kyle Singler said afterward. "But you're not going to outscore Carolina."

    Again, this wasn't College of Charleston or UNC Asheville. This was Duke, playing at home, and playing well. It was an effective reminder that no, the Heels don't have Marcus Ginyard, but they're still as good as anyone. (Note to self: Remember this when filling out bracket.)

    And that's because of Ty Lawson.

    The Heels' junior blur point guard ran by the Devils for 21 of his game-high 25 points in the second half. Fourteen of those points were lay-ups that came from beating guys off the dribble or in transition. It didn't matter if it was Nolan Smith, Greg Paulus or a wall of Devil defenders, Lawson (1.66 PPWS) spread the floor with his speed and finished when it mattered.

    For Carolina to reach Detroit, it'll need more of that from Lawson, much like Derrick Rose did for Memphis last season. Few things disrupt a defense like a quick point guard who can beat defenders off the dribble. Lawson opens up scoring chances for Wayne Ellington and allows Tyler Hansbrough and Deon Thompson to hang around the basket for quick buckets.

    This doesn't mean UNC is going to reclaim the "unbeatable" tag. Plenty of ACC traps remain, starting with Sunday's road game at Miami, and a regular-season finale against Duke, which remains a Final Four worthy team, despite this mini-skid.

    But as long as long as the Heels keep up their go-go attitude, they're going to be tough to slow down, let alone stop.

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  • 10
    Feb
    2009
    10:46pm, EST

    Duke-Carolina, and the March implications

    The pregame hype for Duke-North Carolina is inescapable.

    If you've watched a college hoops game on ESPN in the last week, you know that sport's greatest rivalry has its first game this season on Wednesday at 9 p.m. ET. OK, maybe the showdown itself doesn't always live up to that hype, but it's still No. 3 vs. No. 6, Hard to overlook a game like that.

    When North Carolina (21-2) travels the 9 miles to Cameron Indoor Stadium to play longtime rival Duke (20-3), it's a matchup of two of the game's premier programs who also happen to be among the six or so serious contenders for the national title. It's good enough to prompt N.C. state Senator Eddie Goodall to put up his seat for sale on eBay. (Hold on, he's not going all Blagojevich on us…)

    There's usually plenty of news (this year, it revolves around Greg Paulus starting over Nolan Smith), features (players sharing their fondest memories as preps) and picks to win (Seth Davis likes UNC).

    But the bigger question is if Wednesday's game gives us any indication about which team will fare better in March.  

    The short answer? No.

    The Durham Herald-Sun notes that the last four times either school won an NCAA title, the team that lost the first game went on to win the Big Dance. That covers '92, '93, '01 and '05 – and in each case, the team that won the second game fared better in the NCAAs.

    In fact, since 1989, the team that won the second game advanced further in the NCAA tournament 13 times. It's best to be better later.


    Year 1st game 2nd game ACC champ Better in NCAAs
    2008 Duke UNC UNC UNC (Final Four)
    2007 UNC UNC UNC/Va. UNC (Elite 8)
    2006 Duke UNC Duke Duke (Sweet 16)
    2005 Duke UNC UNC UNC (champions)
    2004 Duke Duke Duke Duke (Final Four)
    2003 Duke UNC Wake Forest Duke (Elite 8)
    2002 Duke Duke Maryland Duke (Sweet 16)
    2001 UNC Duke Duke/UNC Duke (champs)
    2000 Duke Duke Duke UNC (Final Four)
    1999 Duke Duke Duke Duke (finals)
    1998 UNC Duke Duke UNC (Final Four)
    1997 Duke UNC Duke UNC (Final Four)
    1996 UNC UNC G.T. UNC (2nd round)
    1995 UNC UNC UNC UNC (Final Four)
    1994 UNC UNC Duke Duke (finals)
    1993 Duke UNC UNC UNC (champions)
    1992 UNC Duke Duke Duke (champions)
    1991 Duke Duke Duke Duke (champions)
    1990 UNC UNC Clemson Duke (finals)
    1989 UNC Duke NC State Duke (finals)

    (An amazing aspect of these results? Either Duke or Carolina was in the Final Four 15 times since '89.)

    Does that mean the team that wins first peaked too early? Did the loser simply solve its issues? Tough to say.

    "Historically, this game has helped both programs, win or lose, because you've been tested," Mike Krzyzewski told the Herald-Sun. "I think that's the most important thing. Over the years, Duke and Carolina have made each other better -- there's no question about it. … It's a good game to be in, a heck of a game to be in. Not many programs in the United States get a chance to play this level of game; we get to play it twice."

    In the last 10 meetings, Duke usually wins the first game. The Devils have won six of the last seven initial matchups, and eight of the last 10. Carolina's been better the second time around, winning five of the last 6 second meetings. (Duke swept the regular-season series three times between 1999 and 2002.)

    Are we going to see more of the same this time around?

    Our hoops expert, Ken Davis, says no. As good as Duke has been this season, he's picking Carolina on Wednesday, which will eventually propel the Heels to the regular-season crown. But March? Well, that's a different story.

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  • 8
    Mar
    2008
    1:42am, EST

    Lots on the line for Duke vs. North Carolina

    It's funny. The last Duke-North Carolina game resulted in the No. 2 Devils turning in an impressive 89-78 road win against the No. 3 Heels. A month later, UNC hasn't lost since and is ranked No. 1. Duke lost back-to-back games and is now ranked sixth.

    As a result, Saturday's showdown includes some crucial details.

    • The winner claims the ACC title outright and the top seed in the conference tourney. (The first time since '91 the finale has that kind of weight.)
    • A No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament also awaits the winner. Carolina hasn't beaten a top 15 opponent all season and just three victories against the RPI top 25. But, at 28-2, it would be tough to deny the Heels a top seed with a victory. Duke (26-3) owns wins against four RPI top 25 teams (UNC, Wisconsin, Marquette and Miami) and could make a No. 1 argument even with a loss.

    To be clear: Being a top seed doesn't guarantee Big Dance success, but it's a big key. Top seeds have won 13 of 23 national titles since the tournament expanded in 1985 and are 309-79; two seeds have won just four titles and just once since '99, and are 224-88. In the last five years, compare their 65-18 and 50-19 records. That No. 1 seed is an excellent indicator of how a team will fare in the NCAA tourney.

    (Vegas sidenote: It's interesting that neither UNC or Duke are the odds-on favorite for the NCAA Tournament. UCLA is 9-2, with Carolina right behind at 5-1. Duke's odds to win are 10-1, behind Kansas, Memphis and Tennessee.)

    • Heels point guard Ty Lawson missed the first meeting and is still nursing a left ankle sprain. How he handles Duke's pressuring man-to-man defense will be an indication of his NCAA Tournament health and how UNC's offense will function.
    • There's the whole "misquoted" mess, too, but that's mostly for us media types to chatter and fret about. Don't hate us, it's just the way we're built.
    • And, to put the game in perspective, there's this. There will be a moment of silence before the game for Eve Marie Carson.
    • If all that's not enough, you could always watch ESPNU starting early Saturday morning. Five replays of previous Duke-UNC games would do it.

    OK, that was a lot of stuff. Most importantly, who wins?

    Kenpom.com predicts a 91-85 Duke win, with 69 percent certainty. Seth Davis likes UNC, 80-76. Jay Bilas is picking the Devils. Not sure if this is a good idea, but I'll side with Davis.

    The Devils are at home, but I thought they played their best game last month in Chapel Hill. Wayne Ellington will hit his perimeter shots and the Devils won't hit theirs, or at least as proficiently as they did in their Feb. win.

    Essentially, it comes down to this: The team that wins Saturday is more likely to make a run at the NCAA crown. Carolina's balance and Tyler Hansbrough's relentless style of play (SI cover jinx be dammed) makes it a better bet to win in March and on Saturday as well.

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  • 20
    Feb
    2008
    8:05pm, EST

    Coach K, Williams stoke Duke-UNC fire

    The next Duke-North Carolina game isn't until March 8. But there is plenty of fodder for hype in the meantime. And it's all coach created.

    If you missed Roy Williams' jab at Mike Krzyzewki – a retort to a comment from Coach K about Carolina's injuries – listen to the audio here. The best quote? Williams asking an unspecified person to "coach their own damn team, I'll coach my team." That person being Krzyzewski.

    All of this has been building for a while, but came to a head on Sunday and Monday.

    Krzyzewski, whose Duke team has flown under the radar most of the season (or been outright dismissed) wants more attention paid to the Devils' 22-2 season, or at least compared to their Tobacco Road counterparts. UNC (24-2) entered the season as one of the heavy title favorites, but injuries have taken some of the shine off the Heels, which has resulted in more coverage.

    So was it a comment during Williams' radio show last week (comparing Duke's eight McDonald's All-Americans to the Heels' three) or the Devils' surprising loss to Wake Forest on Sunday that nudged Krzyzewski into his subtle jab at the Heels and their injury situation? Probably both.

    From the AP: Noting that freshman Nolan Smith had been playing through a knee injury for a few weeks, Krzyzewski added, "unlike other schools we don't release our injuries," according to the Web site for radio station WRBZ-AM in Raleigh.

    The next day, Williams said on his weekly radio show: "Regardless of what somebody else says about they have injuries too, which is a bunch of bunk, so I don't give a crap what somebody else says, but coach their own damn team, I'll coach my team — in case anybody has heard some statements about that."

    If all seems like two men simply sniping at each other for perceived slights, that's exactly what it is.

    But this is Carolina-Duke. Everything is magnified. That enmity is why these two schools remain the nation's premier rivalry. It's why posts like this and this are so fun to read and why we have entire features built around the two.

    Is it all a little silly? Well, maybe. But if it makes for a fun few weeks before March 8, and makes the rematch an even better game, hoops fans should thank both coaches for extra push.

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  • 7
    Feb
    2008
    3:50am, EST

    Duke beats Carolina, but doubts linger

    Duke looked every bit like a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament in an 89-78 road victory against North Carolina on Wednesday.

    The Blue Devils (20-1) hit 13-of-29 three-pointers, made five fewer turnovers in a raucous Dean Dome and their defense hounded UNC's Wayne Ellington (16.2 ppg) and Danny Green (12.1 ppg) into a nightmarish shooting night. Combined, they were 4-of-24 from the field for 11 points. Without point guard Ty Lawson, UNC's offense never got on track despite 28 points from Tyler Hansbrough.

    In short, Duke looked like Duke. And Duke's been a No. 1 seed eight of the last 10 seasons. A game like that will go a long way to making it nine of 11.

    But that brushes over the nagging thought from Wednesday's game: If Duke played that great and UNC only lost by 11 points, does that mean Duke's hit its ceiling?

    That is, if the Devils play UNC – or another team with Carolina's depth and balance, like Memphis, Kansas, UCLA or Georgetown –in the NCAA Tournament, what are the odds they make 13 threes? Or benefit by playing an injured or struggling team?

    After all, it seems strange to think that Duke is a team without room for error when March rolls around because that kind of hot shooting doesn't last.

    (Consider a team like Tennessee, which wore down perimeter-oriented Florida on Tuesday. The Vols are long, athletic and relentless on the perimeter. As good as Duke is, it's hard to believe they'd get the same looks beyond the arc.)

    That probably comes off as Duke bashing, but there's no other way to put it. Duke looked great against Carolina (21-2). It made plays when needed, hit shots and free throws down the stretch and basically owned Carolina. That's a helluva win. The Devils were aggressive and energetic and it showed in the final score. That's something to be proud of and relish until the rematch in Cameron.

    "They're pretty special right now," Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski said afterward. "We know who we are. We're a very unconventional team. We're not a strong physical team, but we are strong team emotionally, a real together group.

    "You have to hope you don't get killed by a team for a stretch by their strength. You have to find a way and because we have versatile players we've been able to do that so far."

    Coach K knows what he has. He's set up a Phoenix Suns-like offense that relies on dribble penetration and kick outs for threes (pretty much what Duke's done for years), making his squad deadly when it hits those shots.

    Yet, Duke surely knows it didn't get Carolina's best game.

    "It was just one of those nights," Ellington said. "We couldn't get the ball to fall."

    Without Lawson, UNC struggled in transition and had trouble getting players like Green and Ellington open looks. Credit goes to Duke's defense, but Lawson's absence was apparent throughout. Would he be worth 11 points? Almost certainly.

    This isn't to say Carolina will win in Durham if Lawson's healthy. The Heels will have to improve that perimeter defense – like Duke's gonna stop shooting – and ensure Green and Ellington don't start slow. And even all that may not be enough.

    But it's enough to sew doubt in my mind about Duke. In March, being one-dimensional is just too risky.

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